Author Topic: RMAF Fun  (Read 3001 times)

Beau

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 146
RMAF Fun
« on: October 13, 2008, 05:10:18 AM »
Anyone out there recovered enough from the Colorado air to report back from RMAF.  Those of us city bound await the orgy of reports sure to come!

jonathan weiss

  • Administrator
  • Sr. Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 408
  • head cook
    • Oswaldsmillaudio
Re: RMAF Fun
« Reply #1 on: October 13, 2008, 01:17:45 PM »
Hi Beau,

I'm sitting in the Hyatt lobby, waiting to go to the airport, sick as a dog (sore throat) and exhausted, but happy. I think the show went very well.

I can't report on the rest of the show, as what I saw was literally a blur, taking a total of less than one hour to swing by the rooms of other exhibitors I know, or things which I just had to have a listen to.  That was the extent of my sampling, as I just did not have time to wander around in a leisurely fashion.

The response to the OMA room was overwhelmingly positive. Far beyond what I would have expected if I were being optimistic. Many people said, "Best Sound of Show," and some just said it was the best sound they every heard. That was edifying.

Lynn Olson has already posted on DIY audio, and was really enthusiastic about the implementation of the conical horns, compression drivers, and crossover integration. Dr. Edgar came by, complained that he did not like the way the speakers looked, but said they sounded good (!!!!????) We had turntable designers come in, and they had positive comments about Saskia, and Michael Fremer showed up at the end of the show and spent a good amount of time listening, talking about Saskia with Win, and listening to the deck. I played him an early Barbara Streisand lp, which to his credit he identified within about 10 seconds, noted it was a second pressing, and also knew who mastered it. I think he appreciated not being subjected to the usual audiophile demo drek.

I was actually happy with the sound in the room myself. Initially I worried that the system would overload the room, that we would get killed with reflections, etc. The result was a very nice surprise. I figure if you can get sound like what we had in a 350 square foot hotel room, with the electrics and other issues that plague a show like this, then I don't have to worry about people who want to use such a system in a smaller room.

Win and Cynthia were a great help and without them I'd be on a stretcher. Frank Schröder did a (not suprisingly) great job dialing in Peter Lederman's Soundsmith Voice cartridge (the ebony body version with medium compliance) which sounded absolutely fantastic. Even Fremer singled it out for praise. And the Tektron amp we used (with a pair of Sophia mesh plate 2a3 output tubes courtesy of Robin Wyatt) worked out very well.  Atillio of Tektron came over from Italy  with Robin for the show and it was a pleasure to meet him in person. Thanks too for all the cabling provided by Chris Kline of TelWire.


Jonathan

« Last Edit: October 13, 2008, 09:37:22 PM by jonathan weiss »

Beau

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 146
Re: RMAF Fun
« Reply #2 on: October 13, 2008, 02:23:17 PM »
Jonathan,

Doesn't sound like you have recovered :)

Hope you have a good trip back.  Weather is beautiful on the East Coast. 

Can't wait to hear more about the show.


nl

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 91
Re: RMAF Fun
« Reply #3 on: October 14, 2008, 05:46:43 AM »
Congratulations on the excellent response at the show! It is always nice to see that your ideas gain traction with others hearing things for the first time. That room sure looks small compared to the speakers...



Win

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Posts: 64
Re: RMAF Fun
« Reply #4 on: October 14, 2008, 09:41:45 AM »
Hi guys,

An exhausted Win here for certain. Anyway, Jonathan, Cynthia and I are really pleased at how things went. Everything worked, except an old 45A tube that I thought sounded great didn't make it. No matter though, because the 2A3s we used in the little amp did the job nicely.

At the end of the day, I believe we have some sort of synergy going on with Jonathan's speakers, my turntable, etc., etc....I really do.

More later,
Win

billleebens

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 102
Re: RMAF Fun
« Reply #5 on: October 14, 2008, 11:48:37 AM »
Congrats, and congrats on the nice mention on the Stereophile website by Stephen Mejias. "Young Stephen" (as Wes Phillips calls him) just flat out GETS it, God bless 'em.

...and Bruce Edgar criticized your speakers' aesthetics? This from a man whose stuff looks as though it's designed using Lego blocks??

Sheesh.

Cheers, Bill

jonathan weiss

  • Administrator
  • Sr. Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 408
  • head cook
    • Oswaldsmillaudio
Re: RMAF Fun
« Reply #6 on: October 14, 2008, 01:47:48 PM »
Hi Bill,

Dr. Edgar and I had a nice chat in the hallway for a what seemed like a real long time. He was very kind about the sound we acheived, but pretty harsh on the look of our speakers. Seems he has a problem with a "round" shape (the horns) sitting on top of a "square" or "rectangular" shape- the bass enclosure. It was rather surreal, in that way that only audio shows can be. Actually, I took it as a big, backhanded compliment.

Jonathan

RCA-fan

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Posts: 57
from the gods themselves
« Reply #7 on: October 14, 2008, 02:19:24 PM »
http://blog.stereophile.com/rmaf2008/oswald_mill_audio_ac1/#COMMENT

Congratulations Jonathan!  Sound by Singer is next!

A great job, due to all the work you put into the job.

Best,   Bill

jonathan weiss

  • Administrator
  • Sr. Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 408
  • head cook
    • Oswaldsmillaudio
Re: RMAF Fun
« Reply #8 on: October 14, 2008, 04:59:41 PM »
Hi Bill,

I think you deserve a huge amount of credit here. Without Bill Woods the AC-1 speakers would not exist. I really hope this might cause a revaluation of horn speakers and the conical profile as well.

Jonathan

Win

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Posts: 64
Re: RMAF Fun
« Reply #9 on: October 14, 2008, 05:22:19 PM »
Hi Bill,

I think you deserve a huge amount of credit here. Without Bill Woods the AC-1 speakers would not exist. I really hope this might cause a revaluation of horn speakers and the conical profile as well.

Jonathan


Hi,

I agree. When I first began my association with Jonathan, the very idea of horns scared me. I continued because I liked Jonathan, and because I really love my small part as a turntable builder. Inside, I was a planar-electrostatic guy to the very core. No more, though. I really do believe Bill Woods is a virtuouso of conical horns, and I can't wait to get my own pair of AC-1 speakers. Otherwise, how can horns sound so real?

Win
« Last Edit: October 14, 2008, 06:29:39 PM by Win »

billleebens

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 102
Re: RMAF Fun
« Reply #10 on: October 14, 2008, 06:51:27 PM »
Sound By Singer? ..uh, I don't think so.  Doesn't strke me as Andy's speed. Not necessarily a bad thing.

 Besides, if you're opening a showroom in the city, what's the point?

Best of luck to all...

LarryB

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Posts: 50
Re: RMAF Fun
« Reply #11 on: October 15, 2008, 11:41:34 AM »
The OMA room was indeed one of the best; more to follow in my ST show report.

Larry

nl

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 91
Re: RMAF Fun
« Reply #12 on: October 16, 2008, 08:15:58 AM »
re: Dr. Edgar's aesthetic comments:

Hmmm. A round horn on a square box. Who else makes speakers like that?

The AC-1 certainly does have a "giant robot" effect in small rooms. The intended customer normally has plenty of square footage.

DowdyLama

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Posts: 54
Re: RMAF Fun
« Reply #13 on: October 16, 2008, 09:06:49 AM »
I hope you shared your Ricky Martin LP with Michael Fremer
 :)

EMRR

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 88
    • Electromagnetic Radiation Recorders
Re: RMAF Fun
« Reply #14 on: October 16, 2008, 10:02:22 AM »
I think they look great.   Glad to hear they've been well received. 
Best regards,

Doug Williams